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November 18[edit]

California counties[edit]


Is it possible to avoid redirections for "Los Angeles" (seat of the Los Angeles county) and "San Francisco" (county and its seat) in the article List of counties in California?


WhatsUpWorld (talk) 02:19, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

@WhatsUpWorld: Assuming you mean that 'Los Angeles, California' redirects to plain 'Los Angeles' then you can just edit the link to point directly to the page. (And same with SF). Eagleash (talk) 02:26, 18 November 2017 (UTC)
I tried and if I had succeeded, I would not ask. It is some kind of automatic redirection I do not understand. That is why I ask for help. WhatsUpWorld (talk) 02:30, 18 November 2017 (UTC)
Ah no sorry, missed / forgot how this is done: see Template:Countyrow for more information. Eagleash (talk) 02:42, 18 November 2017 (UTC)
Do you mean you want a link to Los Angeles County, California to look like Los Angeles, California? To do that you make the link [[Los Angeles County, California|Los Angeles, California]] using the 'pipe trick'. RJFJR (talk) 17:59, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

Until Next Time[edit]

Can you Move Until Next Time EP from the talk page to the draft page please. (talk) 02:31, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

 Done Eagleash (talk) 02:45, 18 November 2017 (UTC)


Whenever I write abiography of apersonality or celebrity ,it does not show up on wikipedia and on google search engine ,what can i do to make the biography appear on both wikipedia and google? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 05:06, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

To get your biographies to show up in Google, I suggest you publish them elsewhere, because Wikipedia does not accept biographies of most people, but if the person is notable in the Wikipedia sense, that is, you can find information about them in independent WP:Reliable sources, then you should collect the references first, and summarise them in your own words, then create an article in WP:Draft space where we can help you to get the layout correct before publication. If the person is living, then you also need to read WP:Biographies of living persons. It would also help if you would create an account so that we know what subjects you are referring to. Dbfirs 07:51, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

I was told by one of the volunteerer on this page that wikipedia biography does not show up on google search yet whenever i search abig personality on google it show up from why? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 10:21, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

New articles will not be indexed by Google for 90 days (or earlier if they are patrolled). If you tell us what article you are enquiring about we might be able to help more. Dbfirs 13:27, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

HOW TO?[edit]

Trying to add a subject to Wikipedia is an INSANE endeavor! I just want more information about "the Amenia Conference." Can somebody please add this subject to Wikipedia? Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Johnsmtv (talkcontribs) 07:29, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

Johnsmtv: trying to add a new article is indeed difficult, particularly if you have little previous experience of editing Wikipedia. The Amenia Conference may be a subject that deserves an article: there's a book about it. Maproom (talk) 08:03, 18 November 2017 (UTC)
(edit conflict)There were two of them, 1916 and 1933. Perhaps someone with an interest in these, and access to some references such as the "Encyclopedia of African American History 1896 to the Present" could create an article? We seem to have only a mention in the article on Abram Lincoln Harris, and a listing in Wikipedia:WikiProject Missing encyclopedic articles/Dsp13 List/12. Perhaps Duckduckstop or John Carter or Mitchumch might be able to help? Dbfirs 08:18, 18 November 2017 (UTC)
Maybe also 1925? Maproom (talk) 08:26, 18 November 2017 (UTC)
I think 1925 was the publication year of the leaflet by Du Bois, but Credo is rather confusing. Dbfirs 09:01, 18 November 2017 (UTC)


How Can I Put Details Of Acertain Place On Wikipedia — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 10:17, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

Hello, IP user. It's a bit hard to answer, because it's not clear what you mean. If you're wanting to add information to an existing article, that might be quite easy, as you can just edit the article. If you're wanting to create a new article, that's much more difficult, and I'd advise you to start by reading your first article. Either way, please bear in mind that Wikipedia is not interested - not even a little bit - in what you (or I, or any other random person on the Internet) know, or believe, or think: it's only interested in information that has already been published in a reliable place. So, if you're going to add information, you need to start by finding a reliable source - such as a major newspaper or magazine, or a book from a reputable publisher - which gives that information. --ColinFine (talk) 15:15, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

Accessibility developments in Wikipedia[edit]

Hello. I have an interest in discussing some ideas for improving accessibility for screen reading software on Wikipedia, myself being a user of such software. I am a programmer with web development skills and would be happy to help implement my thoughts if they were approved. I've had a look around, but there seem to be many potential areas to discuss ideas in, the most promising of which seems to be The Village Pump's Technical Section. Could anyone recommend the best place to get braining? Thanks! Axciom (talk) 10:59, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

@Axciom: It depends which type of improvements you have in mind, e.g. to the MediaWiki software which powers Wikipedia, or only to wiki pages at the English Wikipedia. Wikipedia:WikiProject Accessibility has some links and you can try the talk page. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:47, 18 November 2017 (UTC)


Thuppaki, a highest grosser Tamil film which has collected more than 180 crores in 2012 is not added in the highest Tamil gross movie list — Preceding unsigned comment added by Santhosh Ranjan 9820 (talkcontribs) 17:06, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

Unfortunately, Santhosh Ranjan, the situation is not totally clear. In the article on Thuppakki there are two sources quoted for total takings: one gives ₹1.8 billion for "domestic" takings (presumably within India), but the other gives a figure of ₹1.21 billion for the whole world. Assessing the reliability of reports on film revenues is often difficult (please see this page for further explanation). If you wish to pursue the matter it may be best to make the case on the talk page of the article you are questioning, or try the relevant WikiProject. Oh, and when starting discussions please link to the articles in question, as I have done here: Noyster (talk), 18:46, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

Should my question at the Reference desk be hidden by other editors?[edit]

Can I ask there a theoretical question about Canon law, without being hatted, as unfortunately happens again and again to my question?

Indeed, this reference desk does not allow to ask for "legal advice". However, this reference desk does allow to ask theoretical questions not being asked for practical legal purposes - but rather for a comparative research.

I'm conducting a comparative research (about whether the decedent's property should be shared equally - under various legal systems - among grandchildren who are not siblings), and now I'm researching Canon Law (along with some relative legal systems as French / Spanish Law). Unfortunately, some editors suspect I'm trying to receive "legal advice" (even though I'm not), so they are hatting my question. However, I'm not asking for legal advice, nor am I asking lawyers, but rather users who are familiar with Canon law (or with some relative legal systems as French / Spanish Law).

HOTmag (talk) 17:31, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

► The place to discuss this is on Wikipedia talk: Reference desk. —2606:A000:4C0C:E200:C9A:4B44:2E28:1611 (talk) 19:28, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

What to do about user who refuses to use edit summaries?[edit]

Ernio48 does not use edit summaries except in rare cases or when the automatic section name is inserted, and responded to my TW notice and polite inquiry with "Leave me alone." Is there anything to be done about this? Thanks. —DIYeditor (talk) 17:32, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

Not really. It's a minor issue. It doesn't warrant blocking the user. If you've warned them, and they don't care, I'd just ignore it. :/ CTF83! 20:42, 18 November 2017 (UTC)
Try real communication, not just a template. Edit summaries help the rest of us, and are a major convenience in keeping an eye on edits. Just saying... 7&6=thirteen () 22:00, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

How can I know my article is valid with no mistakes[edit]

Hi everyone, First of all, thanks for your time reading my inquiry, I need to know how can I know my article is valid with no mistakes, I can't find a proper guide to follow. the article is about a company, I want it to be published by the company name, is that possible from a personal profile to do ? I have all the authorization to publish, I am the Marketing Manager of the company. And how to add the an info box to my article in the right with the logo in PNG format ? Ayah Osama (talk) 19:39, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

Please do not waste volunteers time by asking the same question both here and at the WP:Teahouse - Thank you - Arjayay (talk) 19:42, 18 November 2017 (UTC)
Hello, Ayah Osama. Since I am an administrator, I can read your deleted sandbox draft, which was completely unacceptable for this encyclopedia. It was written in the first person plural, "We do this" and "we do that". The language was overtly promotional, praising the company and its services. Wikipedia is a neutral encyclopedia and companies are not allowed to submit marketing brochures or "profiles" masquerading as articles. Start by reading about conflict of interest and fully complying with our policies on paid editing. Then study the neutral point of view until you understand it thoroughly. Go on to read Your first article and use the Articles for creation process if you want to start all over and try to write a real encyclopedia article. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 20:13, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

Help:Cite errors/Cite error included ref[edit]

Experienced: “A <ref> tag is missing the closing </ref>A <ref> tag is missing the closing </ref>” at and cannot correct. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:5B0:44C6:4CD8:C8C0:829A:6FED:23DB (talk) 20:44, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

Fixed You were just missing the </ref> CTF83! 20:46, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

7 yr. old boy who has a rare case of cancer[edit]

I was reading about a little boy who has cancer. He has been told that he won't live to see Christmas. So his family will celebrate it early. He loves Penguins & all he wants for Christmas is people to draw him pictures. In the pictures he always has a smile on his face. My heart just broke when I read his story. My grandsons would like to draw him some pictures. I had the address & his name wrote down and I lost it. Can you please let me know if you are able to find this story. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 21:05, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

This page is for asking questions about how to use Wikipedia. You can try asking on the Reference Desk or try a search service such as Google to find what you are looking for. RudolfRed (talk) 21:09, 18 November 2017 (UTC)
For what it's worth, I think I found the story you were looking at: see here. As RudolfRed noted, this help desk is generally for asking questions about Wikipedia itself. For unrelated reference questions in the future, use our Reference Desk instead. Thanks, Mz7 (talk) 21:31, 18 November 2017 (UTC)
Found many results here. Also posted at the IP talk page. Eagleash (talk) 21:33, 18 November 2017 (UTC)
Excellent, thanks Eagleash! To add to what I said earlier, I think it's awesome that she and her grandsons are doing this, and we shouldn't let rules get in the way of helping her. Face-smile.svg Mz7 (talk) 21:40, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

Where to ask for assistance with possible copyright issue?[edit]

In the article Don Gregorio Antón, all of the images are listed as Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International, with the source as 'own work'. However, the images all come from published works, like journals or interviews, which suggests to me that those sources may have some rights. I don't know enough about copyright to determine for myself whether these images are OK. Is there somewhere to list possibly-problematic images, as there is for possible vandalism? Leschnei (talk) 21:18, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

@Leschnei: A good place to ask about copyright is at WP:MCQ. RudolfRed (talk) 21:20, 18 November 2017 (UTC)
Thanks, that's just what I was looking for! Leschnei (talk) 21:39, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

What is special about the Teahouse question button?[edit]

I was looking through all the different options available under preferences, and one of the preferences is "Enable the Teahouse "Ask a question" feature". However, there are not similar preference options for the Help Desk ask question button or the button for the Reference Desk. My question is, what is different about the Teahouse ask a question button that requires there to be a preference to turn it off and on? RudolfRed (talk) 21:24, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

@RudolfRed: To see how it looks, you can try it for yourself: switch on the gadget in your preferences, bypass your cache, then navigate to the Teahouse and click the ask button.
It's mainly there for historical purposes, as I understand it. For the help desk and the reference desks, you can ask new questions by simply creating a new section header at the bottom of the page. Nowadays, this is also the case at the Teahouse, but historically, new questions at the Teahouse were actually added to the top of the page, not the bottom. As a result, we couldn't just use MediaWiki's native "new section" functionality, which by default posts to the bottom. Instead, someone built a script to allow the "Ask a question" button to post new questions to the top. Then, at this discussion earlier this year, there was a consensus among Teahouse hosts to switch to the bottom-posting you see today. The "Ask a question" button was updated to accompany this, but nowadays we can just fall back to the MediaWiki "new section" button if you don't like it, which is why there's a preference to turn it off. Hope this helps, Mz7 (talk) 21:51, 18 November 2017 (UTC)
@Mz7: The preference was already checked, so the button was there. Unchecking the preference and purging the cache makes no difference, the button remains, so I'm not sure what this preference does now. Thank you for the reply, I appreciate the info. Also, the Teahouse page has no "New Section" link.RudolfRed (talk) 22:58, 18 November 2017 (UTC)
If you have working JavaScript in your browser and account then clicking the button gives a different way to ask a question when the preference is enabled. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:26, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
Thanks! I had completely misunderstood what the preference was trying to do. RudolfRed (talk) 01:02, 19 November 2017 (UTC)

2019 NHL Winter Classic[edit]

Can you move the 2019 NHL Winter classic article from the Talk Page to the draft page please. (talk) 22:45, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

 Done Please can you use either WP:WIZ or WP:DRAFTS#Creating and editing drafts to create drafts in future. Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 23:18, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

An Article About the Tribe of Hawazin[edit]

Hello Mr./Ms. Reader,

I'm adding valuable information for prosperity to a tribe that I represent. I'm adding references, but the changes keep on reverting back. Please help me make the changes permanent.

Respectfully, Dawi HQ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dawihq (talkcontribs) 23:03, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

The reversion was done by a bot (ClueBot NG) here as "possible vandalism" -- which doesn't necessarily mean that your edits were vandalism, just that something triggered the bot. In the article's history, the bot's edit summary includes a link where you can report false positives. I hope this helps. —2606:A000:4C0C:E200:C9A:4B44:2E28:1611 (talk) 23:17, 18 November 2017 (UTC)
Also, if this is for a tribe you represent, you need to follow the instructions at WP:PAID.Naraht (talk) 01:49, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
And, ClueBot put a note on your talk page. —2606:A000:4C0C:E200:C9A:4B44:2E28:1611 (talk) 02:40, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
Hello, Dawihq. Looking at your edits to Hawazin, it is clear that they are in good faith , and Cluebot was wrong in thinking they were vandalism. I don't know what algorithm ClueBot uses to detect vandalism, but I am sure that it would help if you gave an edit summary when you change an article, explaining what change you are making. --ColinFine (talk) 13:07, 19 November 2017 (UTC)

Meghan Markle[edit]

Please help - I have failed with the upload of a pic/file. Ancestry section - The one I had success with is too big - please make the "lady" one smaller. Thanks (talk) 23:29, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

This seems to have been fixed already – can you check if the picture still appears too big on your side? –FlyingAce✈hello 16:01, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

November 19[edit]

Removal of Bias in High Fructose Corn Syrup[edit]

While doing research on sugars, I was reading Wikipedia's reference to High Fructose Corn Syrup. HFCS is controversial, to say the least. The article looks like it was written by the corn lobby. It is highly biased. I made an edit which both identified that there was a controversy, and included references from valid studies made before and after 2014 that call into question the slanted assertions and studies that were paid for by Coca-Cola and the corn lobby by whomever authored the page and/or edited it previously. User:Zefr rolled back my edits claiming "bias" but did nothing more than support either their bias, or the bias of those who want to make sure that the page only espouses one line of research that is growing outdated. Even the claims within, that HFCS and Sucrose are fundamentally the same are cherry-picking the data. HFCS came on the scene as fats were being removed from foods in the 1970s. The cheapness of the corn-based sugars saw their greater use, which alone is worthy of noting in that it confirms the other existing assertions that excessive sugar is harmful. Beyond that, though, if legitimate studies continue to question whether the additional monosaccharides in HFCS contribute to disease and even decreased social function, why should they not be part of the record?

I contacted Zefr with this challenge, and I respectfully ask that someone more objective in the Wikipedia hierarchy review the challenge of the edit and the existing content of the page. If that level of bias is allowed to stand, it calls into question the veracity of other content that apparently can be influenced by an editor/editors espousing or endorsing a bias with hand-picked information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Theclevertwit (talkcontribs) 05:31, 19 November 2017 (UTC)

The place to discuss disputed edits to the article is Talk:High-fructose corn syrup. --David Biddulph (talk) 05:51, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
Besides, the second paragraph of the description sounds surely critical. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 11:20, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
Hello, Theclevertwit. There is no Wikipedia hierarchy: content disputes are resolved by consensus. Please see WP:dispute resolution for the various stages of the process. --ColinFine (talk) 13:11, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
Hello, ColinFine Thank you for your guidance. Subsequently the editor was in touch and demonstrated a clear bias. I provided additional information and will go through the procedures as noted. In a decade of putting up content, I have never encountered the situation before, and was unfamiliar with the process. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Theclevertwit (talkcontribs) 12:06, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

Recreation of deleted articles[edit]

This article was deleted in 2010 because of lack of notability. Not much has changed since then except for some sensationalistic coverage of a one-time event. What should be done about the recreation of this deleted article? (talk) 01:59, 19 November 2017 (UTC)

In my opinion, nothing as of right now. The recent coverage in People, CNN, Huffington Post et al combined with the coverage since 2010, will weigh strongly in the subject's favor. Anyway, our policy on individuals known for one time events applies only to low profile individuals, and not perhaps individuals like the subject. Thanks, Lourdes 04:33, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
Sorry, I wasn't aware that small town city council members were high profile. (talk) 04:44, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
Well, that's just my opinion about this particular woman, and not a general opinion about council members of towns. You could take up the notability issue at the talk page of the article. After reasonable consideration, if you feel the article should be deleted, you could follow Wikipedia's deletion procedure after giving a good look to Wikipedia's deletion policy. Thanks, Lourdes 09:11, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
It is not a low profile/high profile thing. NOTNEWS and BLP1E are about having a higher bar for what counts towards notability immediately after the event, but that bar is not impossible to meet. BLP1E gives the example of John Hinckley Jr.: that guy would certainly not have a Wikipedia article if it wasn't for the Reagan assassination attempt, but he is still notable for this sole event; he was already notable one day after it, even if more in-depth sources emerged only later.
For the matter at hand, I would guesstimate WP:AFD to be less likely to delete than to keep but not by a very large margin. It certainly would not be a spurious AfD. I can nominate myself if you want me to.
The only other remotely plausible option, WP:G4, would certainly be a spurious CSD tagging (the article is substantially different), so one would have to go through AfD again. TigraanClick here to contact me 18:56, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

Liberty Writers News[edit]

Good evening.

Liberty Writers News is my favourite news website. It is the anti-Fake News website. It is biased toward Conservative views, which is fine by me. However, when I read what is written about Liberty Writers News on Wikipedia, I am appalled, as Mr. Standstein, the editor of this article, is obviously a Leftist who is attacking and smearing this excellent news site. I am, again, forced to deal with another Progressive Projection, this time, by Mr. Sandstein, with the use of the term “fake news”. This term is a President Trump Patriot term. We Conservatives own it.

I ask that this article be removed and that I replace it with something more accurate. I also would monitor Mr. Sandstein's views and other articles that he has published, as they are obviously biased toward the real Fake News: The Left. By this, I mean that Mr. Sandstein likely believes in the Trump/Russia Dossier or Trump/Russia election hacking collusion, both prime examples of current FAKE NEWS that have left Mainstream Media (MSM) without many millions of former listeners and viewers.

Anyway, being a Capitalist, I loved to give back to Wikipedia and donate generously as nothing is free. I was about to say, "No more" to giving to Wikipedia, however, I thought that you would take my proposal and let me go with this Liberty Writers News article. Publishing biased lies about Liberty Writers News is an attack on me.

Looking forward to your positive response,

Luigi Grimaldi, Defender of Liberty and Western Civilization and Culture Member, John Birch Society Member, Christian Heritage Party of Canada — Preceding unsigned comment added by Luigi Grimaldi For Liberty (talkcontribs) 03:30, 19 November 2017 (UTC)

@Luigi Grimaldi For Liberty: I'm sorry but Wikipedia reports what reliable sources say, and if it's predominantly that the website is one of fake news, then that is what we cover. It is preaching to the choir and unwarranted to dismiss @Sandstein: as a "leftist".--Jasper Deng (talk) 04:03, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
@Luigi Grimaldi For Liberty: Note also that, like most Wikipedia articles, this one does not have "an editor" – as the "View history" tab shows, around ten other editors have significantly contributed to it. {The poster formerly known as} (talk) 10:47, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
Hi Luigi Grimaldi for Liberty. I haven't read the article, so I've no idea whether it is accurate or not, but I would not advise trying to replace the whole article. Wikipedia aims for a WP:Neutral point of view, so if you feel that this article lacks WP:Balance then discuss this on the talk page of the article, citing WP:Reliable sources to back up your alternative viewpoint. Dbfirs 12:10, 19 November 2017 (UTC)

Montpelier, Vermont[edit]


Is is OK to upload on Commons this flag ([1]), the official flag of Montpelier, Vermont since the article is not providing it?


WhatsUpWorld (talk) 04:07, 19 November 2017 (UTC)

It would be better to ask at Commons, WhatsUpWorld. But on I see "All content © 2006-2017 Montpelier, VT and its representatives. All rights reserved", so my suggestion would be no, it is not OK. But it's possible that it could be uploaded to Wikipedia itself, if the way it is used meets all the criteria in the WP:non-free content criteria. --ColinFine (talk) 13:19, 19 November 2017 (UTC)

References from e-readers[edit]

I have recently purchased a Kindle e-reader to access research materials for my ongoing Wikipedia projects. This purchase was mostly driven by economic reasons; Amazon will offer a text at $62.00 in hardcover, or $2.75 in the Kindle edition (just as an example), so it's going to be an obvious saving over time.

My question is how do I cite info from e-books into the standard ref /ref format? There are no page numbers on my Kindle, just as one example. I expect there is an FAQ on this, and if anyone could give me a link I'd appreciate it. Wreck Smurfy (talk) 05:03, 19 November 2017 (UTC)

Hello Wreck Smurfy, if you can give a quick read to EBOOKS, can you tell me which all fields listed there (apart from page no) will not be accessible in Kindle books? That would help us in understanding the issue better. Thanks, Lourdes 09:08, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
Thanks, that's just what I was looking for. If citing the chapter is sufficient, then this issue is solved. Much obliged. Wreck Smurfy (talk) 01:43, 20 November 2017 (UTC)


How Many Reference Do I Need When Am Writing Biograhy On Awikipedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 12:14, 19 November 2017 (UTC)

Hello there. I'd suggest you first read Wikipedia's notability guidelines (WP:GNG, WP:BIO) apart from the biographies of living persons policy. Specifically, WP:BIO would give you a fair idea of what's required in terms of citations in biographies. Once you've understood that, use the WP:your first article link to proceed ahead. The English Wikipedia requires a fairly good level of English in its articles, so do keep that in mind too. Come back for any more assistance. Warmly, Lourdes 06:46, 20 November 2017 (UTC)


Karynburme – an ancient Kazakh hot dish. It is cooked from the young lamb dismembered meat; salted, peppered, add wild onions, optional Bulgarian pepper, potatoes. Tripe is cleaned, turned over with a smooth side inwards and filled with a prepared billet. Afterwards, a small hole is digged in the ground, the branches of trees are burned and they heat up a lot. Tripe is smeared with clay and laid in a prepared pit. From above also lay branches and burn the fire. Meat in the pile is brewed in its own juice for about two hours. In fact, our ancestors were preparing familiar meat in the oven, cooked in the sleeve. This dish, with certainty it can be said, has been popular since ancient times among the steppe people, batyrs. Everyone who at least once tries this dish will never forget his juicy, fragrant taste with the smell of steppe wind. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Akmetnar (talkcontribs) 13:29, 19 November 2017 (UTC)

@Akmetnar: Hello, this is the page for help in how to edit Wikipedia. Please see WP:WIZ, WP:AfC and WP:YFA in respect of article content. I will also leave a welcome message at your talk page. Please sign your posts on talk pages by typing four tildes (~~~~). Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 13:34, 19 November 2017 (UTC)

Does Wikipedia have a find and replace function?[edit]

I'm the administrator for the Kabiye [Wikipedia] which came out of the incubator in June. Now that we're up and running, we need to do quite a lot of spelling harmonisation, e.g. of country names, scientific terminology etc. Does Wikipedia have a find and replace function to help with this? Gnangbade (talk) 19:54, 19 November 2017 (UTC)

@Gnangbade: The source editor has a find and replace feature for the page you are currently editing, assuming you use the desktop version with JavaScript in your browser. Click "Advanced" above the edit box and then the icon at the far right. There are tools like Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser to make semi-automatic edits like this to multiple pages. Bots can do it fully automatic but it requires somebody who can run the bot. The English Wikipedia requires permission to run bots. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:11, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

George Bowes (soldier)[edit]

Please fix up the MESS I have made when I tried to add a file/old portrait to an info box. Sorry (talk) 22:37, 19 November 2017 (UTC)

Fixed.[2] PrimeHunter (talk) 22:45, 19 November 2017 (UTC)

November 20[edit]

Meghan Markle[edit]

Ref number 46 is all wrong - it is an IBSN and I have tried over and over to get it right. Sorry - please fix if able. Thanks (talk) 00:00, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

 Done Fixed below. Thanks, L3X1 (distænt write) 15:36, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

Reverting multiple edits[edit]

How do I revert multiple consecutive edits to a page (like 7 or 8 of them) with one action back to a previous version? Or is that even possible? Thanks Creativewill (talk) 00:02, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

In the "Edit history" go back to the last good version. At the top of the column, you should see a link that says, "Restore this version?" Use that link to, y'know, restore that version. Obviously, this only works if you want to revert ALL the changes since that version; but if somebody's been monkeying with the article for a number of edits, it's a very useful item indeed. --Orange Mike | Talk 00:20, 20 November 2017 (UTC)
"restore this version" only appears when Twinkle is enabled at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets, and it only appears on diffs and not on revisions. But everyone can select an old revision in the page history, click the edit tab and then save. See more at Help:Reverting#Manual reverting. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:00, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

Its effectiveness for treating sexual dysfunction in women has not been demonstrated.[edit]

Its effectiveness for treating sexual dysfunction in women has not been demonstrated.[3]

Viagra use in women! I am thinking that this treating of sexual dysfunction should be changed to "In Men" instead of Women! I'm not sure, it should be checked? Thank you Allen Holmstrom — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 02:44, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

You are quoting from the lead of Sildenafil. "[3]" is a link to a supporting reference [3] which says women so it shouldn't be changed to men. The effectiveness for men has been demonstrated. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:14, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

Greater leeds or leeds city region[edit]

Wikipedia is a great source to get information, however with all public sources things can be made up entirely.

Leeds is a city within west yorkshire, but some people have claimed of a wider leeds that includes the proud and independent councils of wakefiekd, kirklees, calderdale and bradford.

Such claims are fooling people and destroying students grades when they use information in education. Such examples are destroying the accurances of wiiipedia and tarnishing its name.

Such lying editors and pages that are big should be verified with official sites to make wikipedia look more responsible

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 03:13, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

We have articles on the Leeds City Region and West Yorkshire Combined Authority with a number of linked references. Is there a specific error in these pages? Rmhermen (talk) 03:46, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

Mitcham Square Shopping Centre[edit]

Hi, Is it possible to delete the page below:

This has caused a Facebook location page containing incorrect information and our correct Facebook page "Mitcham Square" is unable to take over the incorrect page because the page above contains wikipedia content.

Could you please advise if this is possible.

Thank you

Angela Just Advertising

On behalf of Mitcham Square Shopping Centre — Preceding unsigned comment added by JustAdvertising (talkcontribs) 03:32, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

This a problem with Facebook, not with our article. If there are mistakes in our article, please mention them on the article talk page. Rmhermen (talk) 03:57, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

Meghan Markle[edit]

Sorry - Ref number 49 is all wrong - it is an IBSN and I have tried over and over to get it right. Sorry - please fix if able. I am sorry. (talk) 03:41, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

Done. ISBN=accepts only one number, not both a short and long form simultaneously. MB 04:13, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

Richard Hickock[edit]

This may be a little trivial but some of the history you have on Richard Hickocks past is wrong.....he didn't go to Olathe HS, he worked in Olathe at a garage....he went to HS in Efgerton, Ks....his first wife was 16 when he got married and was pregnant and they had 2 boys, then he had his fling with a girl who became pregnant and divorced his first wife to marry the girl he got pregnant...yes his parents were farm people in Edgerton, moms family grew up not far from them and i have been told many stories about him not only from my mom but my aunts also2605:6000:380A:9B00:1410:273F:3E2C:EF78 (talk) 04:38, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

Olathe North High School claims his name, and the article says that he was an athlete there. Is it possible that he attended more than one high school? Wikipedia needs reliable sources to back up statements made in articles. Can you find anything published elsewhere about Dick Hickock? You are welcome to challenge any unsourced statements, and discuss corrections on the talk page of the article.
[Different Contributer here] By "Efgerton" I presume you mean Edgerton, Kansas? That city's article doesn't mention a high school at all, though it's rather short. In 1950 (when Hickock turned 19) Edgerton's population was only 266, while Olathe's was 5,593: their populations in 2010 were 1,671 and 125,872 respectively, and the Olathe School District alone currently has 5 high schools. Note that Olathe North High School
". . . was founded in 1883 as Olathe High School. The school moved to its current location in 1958 and changed its name to Olathe North High School in 1981."
– so is it possible that in the 1940s the then Olathe High School was the one that also served Edgerton? {The poster formerly known as} (talk) 09:13, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

Albert Kitson, 2nd Baron Airedale[edit]

Please help. I successfully added a file of old Gledhow Hall photo! Please put the little dots under the letter "c" (for circa) which is in the photo. Thanks (talk) 06:23, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for adding the image. I don't think any dots under the letter "c" are needed. If you look at the page Circa, you will see that the present caption is consistent with usage there. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:41, 20 November 2017 (UTC)
The photo of 'Lord and Lady Airedale at the coronation of King George V' looks like an early example of Photoshopping... AndrewWTaylor (talk) 11:09, 20 November 2017 (UTC)
I've added the little dots. Maproom (talk) 11:47, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

A entire silly question on :[edit]

I don't know came from where that i was told to add : in the internal-link in the talk page, for example [[:Entry]], [[:User:Entry]] is that no effect or affecting "what link here"? Matthew_hk tc 10:22, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

It's not needed if you are linking to a page in mainspace or talk, but you need the preceding colon to link to a file instead of displaying the image, or to link to a category instead of putting the page into the category. See Help:Link#Wikilinks (internal links). --David Biddulph (talk) 10:33, 20 November 2017 (UTC)
that looks weird. As using WP:TW, the semi-automatic link by the template and the tools also have [[:foo]] Matthew_hk tc 15:53, 20 November 2017 (UTC)
The preceding colon doesn't do any harm, so my guess is that the tools put in the colon for all namespaces as the simplest option, rather than having to test for which namespaces need it. --David Biddulph (talk) 16:38, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

Dear VLE, your account is still not created, either your registration information is incomplete or still under review. It is suggested to check the application status.[edit]

Dear VLE, your account is still not created, either your registration information is incomplete or still under review. It is suggested to check the application status.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2405:205:1287:9A9C:8DC3:5AF5:D8EC:764A (talk) 15:58, 20 November 2017 (UTC) 

Deletion of the original LaFlavour (band) Wiki page, and refusal to act on proposed page[edit]

LaFlavour (aka La Flavour) are a musical group who have been in existence for more than half a century, beginning in Massillon, Ohio in 1967. They are famous for the worldwide release of "Mandolay", which reached #7 on Billboard's Disco Chart in 1980, as well as the follow-up single "Only The Lonely (Have a Reason to Be Sad)" which cracked Billboard's Hot 100 in June of 1980. Both the album & single of "Mandolay" received Billboard Music Awards in the Disco category. A quick glance at Discogs will reveal both the album and single were released in 13 countries on 5 continents. Prior reasons given for not including LaFlavour on Wikipedia have been "not enough national press". My question is (I hope I've come to the right place to ask): WHY have you included a Wiki for Jimmy & The Soulblazers - who also hail from Northeast Ohio - when they haven't come anywhere near as close to achieving LaFlavour's success & recognition? The original LaFlavour version of "Mandolay" was featured both in the movie and on the soundtrack album for the Paramount release "Kiss Me Guido". "Mandolay", the single, also topped the Cashbox charts in 1980. "Mandolay" is still played DAILY on Siri/XM's Disco Channel "Studio54". The Soulblazers never achieved anything remotely close to this. The point is - if LaFlavour cannot - for whatever reason - have presence on Wikipedia, what "rule" enabled Jimmy & The Soulblazers to be included? This is absolutely unfair, unbalanced, and represents only one example of an uneven playing field with regard to inclusion of entities in the entertainment industry who have not made near the impact LaFlavour have. If this Subject/Issue has been sent to the wrong place, please inform as to where it should be sent. Thank you for taking time to read this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LaFlavour (talkcontribs) 16:15, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

Do you have a link to the deletion discussion? If the title of the deleted content was "LaFlavour (band)" I have been unable to find it at any WP:AFD discussion (so far all I could find about LaFlavour in Wikipedia is some content at She Don't Know Me). Shearonink (talk) 16:26, 20 November 2017 (UTC)
(edit conflict)The existence of one poorly-references article does not justify the creation of another. Neither article should exist unless someone can find independent reliable sources where the subject has been written about in detail. Please see WP:Your first article and WP:BAND for further guidance. Dbfirs 16:30, 20 November 2017 (UTC)
The article was at LaFlavour and was speedy deleted as a copyright violation of the history page at LaFlavour's website. Rmhermen (talk) 06:08, 22 November 2017 (UTC)

Oath Keepers[edit]

Oath Keepers (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

On your page about Oath Keepers. It is not an anti-government organization, limited, accountable, and open but never anti. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 17:35, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

That particular statement seems to have a number of sources attached to it. If you wish to change it please raise the matter at the article talk page, providing sources in your support. Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 17:41, 20 November 2017 (UTC)
That said, there is an issue with one of the citations - see Talk:Oath Keepers#Discussion on meaning of a reference for a discussion on that. (talk) 18:24, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

Can you please check my English in this article?[edit]

Hello everybody! I'm current finishing an article about a singer, but my English is not good and people have complained to me on my previous works, saying that my way of writing could easily be looked as fan's point of view.

I really want my article to have a neutral tone and not looking like a commercialized article. I also want to make sure that my grammars and structures are right. I would be grateful to hear from anyone who may be able to help! Thank you thank you so much!

The article is here. Beyoncetan (talk) 19:16, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

Contributing article[edit]

Just now I have opened the account. Would like to upload a file on the life and work of Sangeetacharya Vishmadev Chattopadhyay . Please guide.. how to upload.

With Regards. Malabika Chatterjee--Malabika Chatterjee (talk) 19:51, 20 November 2017 (UTC) 1.18a.m.

@Malabika Chatterjee: Read the guidance at WP:YFA, and then use the link on that page to use the article wizard to create a draft article for review. RudolfRed (talk) 20:12, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

Trying to submit a draft for review.[edit]

Hello, I am trying to submit a draft for review but there is no "button" to do so. The draft name is DAS Model Management; please see below for the link.

Thank you, Cautenrieth (talk) 21:05, 20 November 2017 (UTC)cautenrieth

I've added the relevant template to give you a submit button, & also added a References section with {{reflist}} template. If you haven't already done so, please read the advice at WP:Your first article. --David Biddulph (talk) 21:15, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

Cite a file[edit]


I am trying to cite a downloadable file. How should I do this?

The file is in the form : file:///home/chronos/u-4e61572b815e713343aaced2557d05ef0687d4e9/Downloads/HandWallet_Expense_Manager%20(3).pdf


Potatornado (talk) 20:57, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

Hello, Potatorndo. I'm afraid you can't. That is a file on your computer, so there is no way that anybody reading an article would be able to access it. Anything linked to from a Wikipedia article (or any other website, for that matter) must be hosted on a webserver that the Internet can request it from. You would need to upload it somewhere first - or if you downloaded it from somewhere (which I'm guessing you did, because it is in your downloads directory) you can use the URL where you downloaded it from. --ColinFine (talk) 21:32, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

adding pupils to famous teachers[edit]

My piano teacher, Grace Berry Davis, studied with both Robert Casadesus & Nadia Boulanger. How can I ad her to the lists pf their students? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Grandmaroo (talkcontribs) 21:05, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

Hello, Grandmaroo. Why do you think that might be a suitable piece of information for a world-wide encyclopaedia? If your piano teacher meets Wikipedia's criteria for notability, so that there could be an article about her, then by all means add her to such lists. But if she is just an ordinary person like you and me and 99.99% of the people on the planet, (even if she is a wonderful piano teacher) then I'm afraid she doesn't belong there. --ColinFine (talk) 21:38, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

John Hussey, 1st Baron Hussey of Sleaford[edit]

I have failed when adding a replacement file - pic. Please help So sorry (talk) 21:54, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

This appears to have been fixed (by David Biddulph). Eagleash (talk) 23:01, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

Church of St. Michael and All Angels Christchurch[edit]

Hi there,

I can't figure out how to edit the box with the purple heading on the right hand side of this page. I want to delete that Father Andrew Starky is the Vicar because he died earlier this year.

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 22:20, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

It looks as if you worked out how to do it. It would be a good idea to complete the edit summary box at the bottom of the edit window. Otherwise, your edits could be seen as disruptive as there is no explanation. A source, such as a death notice or obituary (personal knowledge does not help here) would also be useful. See WP:REFB for a basic guide to how to add these. I will also leave some links at your talk page. Eagleash (talk) 22:59, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

November 21[edit]


I could really use some advice from an experienced editor about overlinkage. An expansion on the MOS and what people find to to be general practice, particularly within quotations, would be much appreciated. Thanks. Gabriel syme (talk) 02:42, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

I assume you read the MOS on linking, "Items within quotations should not generally be linked; instead, consider placing the relevant links in the surrounding text or in the "See also" section of the article." Currently your question is a bit broad. If this section of the MOS is unclear, could you please specify the question, so I myself or another reader can give a more meaningful reply. Sincerely, Taketa (talk) 12:25, 21 November 2017 (UTC)
Actually, MOS:LINKSTYLE is exactly what I'm looking for, I hadn't found that page yet, and actually just now found the MOS/contents page for the first time, which is incredibly helpful. Thanks alot! Gabriel syme (talk) 17:38, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

Plague of nbsp[edit]

I'm having problems editing African bush elephant. I'm attempting to edit and fix "John Hopkins University" to "Johns Hopkins University". However when I edit, even if the only thing that I do is add the s, the article is also changed by having 6 or so &nbsp; added. See for example . Ideas on what's going on and how to fix it? I'm using WikEd, my normal editor and have made a number of similar edits on other articles before and since.Naraht (talk) 09:11, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

FWIW, I've no idea what was going on (as I don't use WikiEd), but I've added the absent 's' where it was missing in the Bibliography. {The poster formerly known as} (talk) 09:32, 21 November 2017 (UTC)
I suffer from time to time from the same problem. I hadn't realised that it was associated with WkiEd. If you look carefully at the version before Naraht's edit you'll see that the &nbsp; characters are present, so I think that all that WikiEd is doing is making them visible as such. --David Biddulph (talk) 10:52, 21 November 2017 (UTC)
Yes, wikEd replaces Unicode non-breaking space characters with their html entity &nbsp; in accordance with MOS:NBSP. The Unicode characters were added 10 November in [4] by Abknych who maybe has software which changes two normal spaces to one space and a non-breaking space to produce more spacing. Two normal spaces render like one space in html. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:08, 21 November 2017 (UTC)
Thank you for the information. So the right thing for me to do was to have seen the addition of the nbsp in what was there after I edited and simply deleted them as long as there was a normal space on one side or the other.Naraht (talk) 18:36, 21 November 2017 (UTC)
Yes, there was no reason for non-breaking spaces and I have deleted them.[5] But detecting them as Unicode characters can be difficult, and two normal spaces after punctuation is allowed by Wikipedia:Manual of Style#Spaces following terminal punctuation. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:34, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

Edits to Anna Friel Wikipedia (New Awards)[edit]


Can you please update Anna Friel's page ( to reflect her recent win:

Best Actress, International Emmy Awards (for her leading role in 'Marcella')

Many thanks,

Mia (talk) 11:49, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

Done in this edit. Rojomoke (talk) 15:28, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

an Author bio[edit]

Can I have a author bio on Wikipedia? I've tried before and couldn't seem to get it right. Thank you, JD Holiday — Preceding unsigned comment added by J.D. Holiday (talkcontribs) 16:02, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

Dear J.D. Holiday, to keep it short, no you cannot. Wikipedia is an enclopedia. If a subject is relevant someone else will write about it. Wikipedia is not a place for an author bio about yourself. The user page is indeed meant to write about one self, however only to help in working together with others on Wikipedia. It is not meant to promote yourself or your website. There are other social websites to post an author bio. Sincerely, Taketa (talk) 16:58, 21 November 2017 (UTC)
J.D. Holiday To put it a bit more kindly - you can if you are a notable WP:PERSON enough to be included and meet the requirements set forth by WP guidelines. As an author, you would need to have won an award of merit; or your work would have to be recognized by a distinguished media publication and covered as such in review. It would seem that your work is self-published? and mostly self-promotional, as well? This is problematic in gaining notability at WP. If you can supply notable claims that would meet the necessary requirements for inclusion at WP; you are more than welcome to submit a request for an editor to write an article here: [6]. Please note that the wait time is very long; and rejection is almost guaranteed in a situation such as this. You will also have to disclose your WP:CIO Conflict of Interest; since WP discourages any subject editing / contributing to articles about themselves. Good luck, though! Maineartists (talk) 17:18, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

Peter Kyles[edit]

1. Do you think that P. Kyle McCarter Jr. meets the notability requirements?

2. If so, do you think that it should be renamed to "Peter Kyle McCarter"? If you think so, could you possibly rename it?

3. There is a "Peter Kyle" from Scotland who won £5M in the national lottery, but 3 years later was reported to have spent it all. [7] [8] [9] Do you think he meets the notability requirements?

4. Please change Peter Kyle from a redirect to a disambiguation to (at least) Peter Kyle (footballer) and Peter Kyle (politician), if appropriate please add a link to whatever you call P. Kyle McCarter Jr. and consider redlinking Peter Kyle (lottery winner) (talk) 17:27, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

1. No. The article cites only two sources. The first is a directory entry, the second includes a short interview with him, and tells us only that he is "one of the world’s foremost authorities on the Book of Samuel".
2. No. Those two sources refer to him as "P. Kyle McCarter" and as "P. Kyle McCarter Jr", not as "Peter Kyle McCarter".
3. I haven't checked; but probably not.
4. This seems a sensible suggestion. But I don't want to get involved making changes until we've decided whether to have an articles on the lottery winner as well. If only two Peter Kyles are to have articles, we don't need a db page. Maproom (talk) 18:29, 21 November 2017 (UTC)
Thanks, I agree.
If there are only two Peter Kyle, then hatnotes would be fine; I'm not sure if that lottery one passes, so would welcome opinions to decide that.
I'll put a PROD on the first one. (talk) 18:52, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

E-Mail visible?[edit]

Is my account's E-Mail address visible to Wikipedia administrators or anybody else (Stewards, CheckUser, Oversight, UTRS, etc.) than me? -- (talk) 17:59, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

No. It's not available to those users.
Obviously, it is stored, so is theoretically available to Wikimedia Foundation employees.
If concerned, you must be very careful: if enabled, anyone can send you an email (using "email this user") - they will not be given your email address, but if you reply, they will of course be given the address that the reply came from.
See also m:Privacy_policy
Wikimedia takes privacy very seriously, and there is little to be worried about regarding your account information, although depending on your security/paranoia level, nothing is 100% secure if it is on the internet.
It's probably easier to hack Donald Trump's twitter than to steal your email addy via Wikipedia. Then again, the former has already (sorta) happened. (talk) 18:16, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for your answer, (whoever you are). I really appreciate. You must be an experienced user (maybe even administrator) of Wikipedia. -- (talk) 18:28, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

See also foundation:Privacy policy. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:35, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

Where can I ask lesser relevant or urgent questions?[edit]

Hello. HelpDesk is intended for fast questions. But where can I ask lesser important questions without bothering anybody? -- (talk) 18:30, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

  • Your premise is faulty. You can ask here any question relative to how to edit Wikipedia, no matter how trivial or non-urgent, if there is no better place that you know of. If there is a better place, we will point you to it, but such redirections are part of what the HD is for. Bothering people with newbie questions is what the help desk (and the Teahouse) are for.
I mean, for really urgent questions (answer needed within the hour) the IRC chan is probably a better shot, but I do not see any question that is both really urgent and appropriate for the help desk. (See WP:EMERGENCY, WP:OVERSIGHT, etc. for examples of what is not appropriate on the HD.) TigraanClick here to contact me 18:42, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

(edit conflict)

There are many more specific areas, but if you ask here you can be redirected - for example, if asking which sources are 'reliable' enough there is WP:RSN, if you want a graphic editing there's Wikipedia:Requested pictures, if you want to stop vandalism there's WP:AIV and literally hundreds more. If the wiki is on fire, try WP:AN. (talk) 18:50, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

Search revision history[edit]

Hello. How can I search the revision history of pages for text? I would like to find some text, that was removed because it was not sufficiently cited. I can no longer find it, but I know some words it included. One of them is "the most noticeable", as far as I can remember.

How can I find it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 18:55, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

  • There might be other tools, but have you tried WikiBlame? If it fails, please report back with the page name, so that people more talented than me can check. TigraanClick here to contact me 19:00, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

information in source cited is an image[edit]

I've run into a situation where a source is cited, but the information cited is not in the text of the source, it is derived from observing a photograph in the article. Would this qualify as original research? One issue that springs to mind immediately is the fact that the image could be mirrored. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gabriel syme (talkcontribs) 20:55, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

Found an answer over at the OR noticeboard. Gabriel syme (talk) 23:49, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

Draft Articles[edit]

How long does it take to finish the draft article. (talk) 21:54, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

Save as Draft:ArticleName. -- (talk) 22:08, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

Identify if my account is hijacked.[edit]

Hello. Web pages such as Google and Twitter offer users the ability to see the logins from IP addresses to the user account. Check user means: See who logged onto an IP address.

I would like to see, what IP addresses logged into my account. This should be possible for users also without check user permissions. Google and twitter already have these features for every user. -- (talk) 22:13, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

Your IP is, you are not logged in? Do you have an account? Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 22:16, 21 November 2017 (UTC)
@Emir of Wikipedia: the user is probably a sock putting out feelers through covert questions. See my comment on the other page[10] (talk) 22:21, 21 November 2017 (UTC)
Pinging admins@Doug Weller, JamesBWatson, Materialscientist, Berean Hunter, and Zzuuzz:, there is something strange and fishy here, is it possible to check this ip? (talk) 22:46, 21 November 2017 (UTC)
Here on a completely unrelated issue but I noticed that the ip asking "Where can I ask lesser relevant or urgent questions?" above is the same as here. Hope that helps. Gabriel syme (talk) 22:54, 21 November 2017 (UTC)
There was an e-mail issue regarding a banned long-term COI sockmaster who is also from Northern Rhine-Westphalia and using the same ISP, Deutsche Telecom. Thus, the anon asking questions regarding e-mails seems quite DUCK to me. (talk) 00:16, 22 November 2017 (UTC)
Duck? What does that mean? -- (talk) 00:07, 22 November 2017 (UTC)
  • The anon claims that he does not know what does WP:DUCK mean but the same anon is familiar with WP terminology to know WP:SUBST [11], a much lesser-known WP page. I am not willing to waste my time with him. I'll leave it to admins. (talk) 00:24, 22 November 2017 (UTC)
Sorry, I didn't know about WP:Duck. There are many WP: pages. How is one expected to know all of them? And If I wanted to hack Wikipedia, which I can't do without hacking skills, I would do it right now. -- (talk) 05:58, 22 November 2017 (UTC)
I just noticed that my IP address has changed overnight. I am the same person. May I ask, why everybody gets sceptical so quickly, without me doing any harm? -- (talk) 06:04, 22 November 2017 (UTC)

Hello. If you like, you can track me as long as you want. I won't vandalize anything. Yes, I have an account, but I am too shy to ask with it. And I have not (if then rarely) used my account since Octobre of 2015. -- (talk) 23:19, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

IP addresses are sometimes dynamic, so they do not have an owner. If you are genuine, then just use your account. Dbfirs 08:21, 22 November 2017 (UTC)

under Review[edit]


I am not sure if my article is still under review or I need to submit it

please find link to page below

cheers — Preceding unsigned comment added by Boo76 (talkcontribs) 23:37, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

Yes, the box at the foot of the draft shows that you did resubmit it. The box says: "Review waiting. This may take over two months. ... ". --David Biddulph (talk) 23:49, 21 November 2017 (UTC)
Note The page has now been accepted. Eagleash (talk) 01:42, 22 November 2017 (UTC)

How to make template embeddable[edit]

I am trying to make {{Ordination}} embeddable in other infoboxes. I've added the child syntax and modified the abovestyle in the template's sandbox, but when I try to embed it, the template just appears smaller, inside the other infobox as a parameter, not as an embedded template. Does anyone know how to fix this? Thank you in advance. Ergo Sum 23:57, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

Does WP:SUBST work? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 00:08, 22 November 2017 (UTC)
I don't see how that would help. Ergo Sum 01:02, 22 November 2017 (UTC)

I have tried around with the syntax and have gotten it so that the template will embed in another template. However, the remaining problem is that I would like the header (color and text determined by abovestyle and above) to appear in a slightly modified way for when the template is embedded. Currently, I cannot get the header to appear at all when it is embedded. Does anyone have any ideas? Ergo Sum 05:46, 22 November 2017 (UTC)

November 22[edit]

John Hussey, 1st Baron Hussey of Sleaford[edit]

Please help 2 things - I have failed in my attempt to add a book as a general reference at the end of this page with the other 6 or so books/ documents. Please fix It is in the wrong place.

Also - shouldn't there be a heading "Further References" on top of these extra references?? Thanks in advance and sorry203.132.68.1 (talk) 00:50, 22 November 2017 (UTC)

The ref tags are not necessary at that point. I believe this has been pointed out several times before. As the 'other books' do not have them, they should not have been added. An additional heading is not essential but you could add something like 'Footnotes' above the reflist template and possibly 'Sources' after it (above the list of books) if so desired. Eagleash (talk) 01:35, 22 November 2017 (UTC)

2018 in radio[edit]

Can you move the 2018 in radio page from the talk to the draft page please. (talk) 02:13, 22 November 2017 (UTC)

 Done see Draft:2018 in radio. NZFC(talk) 02:43, 22 November 2017 (UTC)

James Kitson, 1st Baron Airedale[edit]

Please help - I have FAILED in my attempt to add a file from COMMONS - in the Gledhow Hall section - on to the above page. please assist if you can. Thank you very much. (talk) 07:29, 22 November 2017 (UTC)

Dear Madam/Sir, I have added the image to the article [12]. Sincerely, Taketa (talk) 07:51, 22 November 2017 (UTC)